If you don’t know the story of a Kentucky-bred colt that upset the racing world in 1954, then you are going to want to hear about Never Say Die at the famed Epsom Derby in England. Author James Nicholson weaves a fascinating story of this international upset and how it impacted the thoroughbred racing industry in the Bluegrass State. James Nicholson is on the phone with our Stuart Holman to discuss Never Say Die: A Kentucky Colt, the Epsom Derby, and the Rise of the Modern Thoroughbred Industry.